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Dan Dunlap
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8 comments:
I'll take that as a compliment.
Seems rather Gnostic. That which is human must be obliterated. Sounds like Milbank. Perhaps that explains why he prefers Hegel and Bulgakov to Palamas.
It seems like a quotation is right in line with Gnostic hermenutical practices-the text undoes itself.
I don't see your point, Perry. That which is human is not "obliterated." Rather, that which is human is truly affirmed and placed in historical context.
I'd suggest that to deny the principle as stated runs the risk of a Docetic view of Scripture. That may be acceptable to Fundamentalism, but not to Christian orthodoxy.
The principle is also eminently demonstrable. What we now term the "language of appearance" to describe the relationship of the earth to the heavenly bodies was the actual cosmology of those who composed the Scriptures.
It seems to me that "cultural conditioning" is merely one facet of the larger human condition: we are finite. We have gaps in our knowledege and understanding. The biblical authors were humans, finite like us.
The statement did not say that the Scriptures become irrelevant, or lack authority, but merely that they reflect a certain cultural situation at a given point in time.
In fact, could we not say that the fact that the Scriptures, despite their humanity (or perhaps partly because of it,) continue to speak to us, is a manifestation of their divine inspiration?
Bob Hackendorf
Curious as to what you mean by "contain the seeds of the demise, etc".
It's certainly not Gnostic. The statement affirms the humanity of scripture. I wonder however if this statement could go in an adoptionistic or Arian direction.
And do these "seeds" refer to cultural "errors" (perhaps) in scripture? An incarnational view of the scriptures which not only includes divinity and humanity but also error? Is this a scriptural incarnation? Possessing divinity and humanity and yet sins, too?
The problem is that you equate incidental "error" (e.g. what every man on the street just happens to believe is true, and yet is not) with volitional sin.
A better analogy would be to compare incidental errors with physical (rather than moral) human flaws, like having a big ugly mole or a chipped tooth.
How is that a problem? If the scriptures have an inherent incarnational nature it must follow that they share the same integrity of the one in whom there is no darkness at all.
What is the big ugly mole or the chipped tooth you see on the face of Scripture?
It was hypothetical. I don't see a big ugly mole or a chipped tooth in Scripture. I was just using these as examples of physical (incarnational) features that are of no ethical significance.
It's quite possible that Jesus may have had a mole or two...maybe even chipped tooth or even...gasp..tooth decay.
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