tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25190947.post115962987513769865..comments2023-10-28T03:26:35.948-05:00Comments on Catholic in the Third Millennium: My Thoughts on Camp Allen and the Kigali CommuniqueDan Dunlaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15610718122774026303noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25190947.post-1160493858361185072006-10-10T10:24:00.000-05:002006-10-10T10:24:00.000-05:00This is just a small stab at a big problem, but wh...This is just a small stab at a big problem, but what about this...<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that the sine qua non of Anglicanism is precisely its lack of distinctives (unlike Confessional traditions that tend to underscore what makes them unique among other branches of the Church)-- to put it another way, Anglicanism has little that is uniquely and solely hers (although it is the following combination of traits that, ironically, make her unique!); to wit, Anglicanismis that Branch of the Church that does not require anything ('require' in the sense of make necessary for salvation) that is not expressly taught in Scripture and to respect the precedents set by the Creeds and Councils of the Church, preserving the historic episcopate in communion with the See of Canterbury.<BR/><BR/>This allows for a protestant leaning form of Anglicanism as well as for more catholic leaning forms.<BR/><BR/>Bob HackendorfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25190947.post-1159749332556948302006-10-01T19:35:00.000-05:002006-10-01T19:35:00.000-05:00I would never expect you to agree with somebody li...I would never expect you to agree with somebody like Noll.<BR/><BR/>But the presenting question would then be, "if Communion-preserving Anglicans jettison English Protestantism, the Articles, and anything resembling Common Prayer, what binds said Communion theologically?" I reckon many would respond, "recognition and communion with Canterbury." <BR/><BR/>But that's problematic for American Anglicans, given the events surrounding the origin of TEC back in 1789, as you know.<BR/><BR/>So, shall we say that the *ne plus ultra*, the state of being unimpaired, of the received faith is communion with ++Cantuar?<BR/><BR/>What, in your opinion, is the way forward from here?<BR/><BR/>PS. I don't really style myself "wyclif"--it's the name of my domain and hence just a 'handle'--any more than you would style yourself "lex orandi/credendi." I've owned it for years- try snagging a six-letter domain name in 2006. Good luck. That's really all there is to it. I don't have any stock in perpetuating Wyclif's brand of theology, including his anticlericalism and his eucharistic theology.Daniel Stoddarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14084268720966975050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25190947.post-1159731838648639472006-10-01T14:43:00.000-05:002006-10-01T14:43:00.000-05:00Fair point. From my perspective, Noll is perhaps ...Fair point. From my perspective, Noll is perhaps better characterized as a hardline Protestant, whose own stated position is that the current Canterbury-centered Communion is a vestige of Britain's colonial past that is hardly worth preserving if it means watering down Reformation doctrine. The Communion he envisions, and not so covertly lobbies for, is one set up along 16th century confessional (formularic) lines. <BR/><BR/>That may appeal to one who styles himself "wyclif," but not to one who aspires to be "catholic in the third millennium."Dan Dunlaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610718122774026303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25190947.post-1159703371602205642006-10-01T06:49:00.000-05:002006-10-01T06:49:00.000-05:00Stephen Noll, an arch-conservative?If spoken in th...Stephen Noll, an arch-conservative?<BR/><BR/>If spoken in the context of TEC, I agree. But if we're talking about the wider Communion, that characterisation gets a bit more tricky. American evangelicals have deeper theological ties to the Global South and hence the wider Communion, and I would think that would at least be a mitigating factor compelling one to drop the 'arch-'.Daniel Stoddarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14084268720966975050noreply@blogger.com